Both leaders are not good for the pakistan and the people of pakistan.

As I write these lines the latest on this is that PML N has withdrawn its 48 hour ultimatum. We are back at square one. Confrontation postponed. All are sailing in the same boat including MQM and PML Q. So why crib…we voted them to power, and history books were AVAILABLE.

I feel the government officials should be thrown out from politics. They have become a pain with their nefarious deeds and flimsy comments.

Its time dashing cricket star Imran Khan is given a chance and allowed to lead the nation. He is smart, intelligent and brave. Only problem is that he puts his foot into his mouth sometimes. He should avoid that and maintain his composure.

How can the ISI pay off right wing parties. It’s time ISI’s wings are clipped and it made to function responsibly as per law. It has grown too big for its boots . No wonder Pakistan has acquired a bad name and its reputation has nosedived across the globe.

No one cares about these politicians and their politics or about the army.

If states are built to make news then i congratulate Dawn news.

The people suffer while the rulers make a great play and bounce from tv show to tv show with stories about their antics.

Once they have had enough they will probably leave for dubai,uk or wherever they come from.

End of hypocrisy: The ultimatum is clear evidence of corruption. Oh, what a leadership on the poles.

Missing Political Concept:
The Political System in Pakistan and as well as in Afghanistan, Iraq is designed by the West.
The any possible Democracy Solution for this Region needs a Long term Development and Planning. For the Western it is difficult to handle a Democracy as Compare to a Shine Democracy where the some figures are responsible and acting like a profit Center Managers.
A course correction of Western policy for this Region would necessary.

It is highly unfortunate that we cannot look for someone honest and educated who can run Pakistan

I am of the veiw, that PML N, by demanding the trial of Mushraf, is trying a creat a rift between the present Govt and the Army.

Nawaz shariff is the only leader present in Pakistan with some credibility and stature, Zardari looks to be in a wrong place. He has just replaced Musharaf with no fundamental change.

If judiciary is impartial and independent then they should trial all those involved in money game played by agencies. They should punish all involved.

Yes, lets start a trial/court martial on Musharraf. Then after we’re done with that, lets try all the members of the ruling parties. After we’re done with them, lets try all the politicians in the opposition. Then, lets try the members of our “independent judiciary”.

This will go on and on and on. What this country needs is a revolution. The people should rise up against the system. Because, it is the system that is flawed. The system permits even a normal level-headed guy (we have a serious shortage of those, by the way) to be corrupted by power and greed.

The Pakistani who begs at traffic signals and barely gets a meal a day doesn’t give a damn about independent judiciaries or political manifestos. What they want is a roof over their heads and three square meals a day. Their only mistake was, it seems, that they were born in this country.
The Quaid must be turning in his grave right now.

Qadam barhao Nawaz Sharif “Not only against Musharraf but also against Hamid Gul and Zia”

Billions of Rupees will change hands to put off this controverys for sure.

After watched all the disclosure of retired military office on media, one gauged that how the opposition are anti Peoples Party , a party which always protected them and never let down their prestige .
Our political leaders should learn lesson from the past that repeating same mistake further plunged country into chaos and people forget about democracy and Pakistan which is already a security state , democracy never flourish but further pay a way for Jehadi culture .

Mr Nawaz Sharif has not learnt his lesson yet.He seem to be isolated inside a plush surroundings,who have a real disconnect with the country except may be urban punjab.

Please lay out your future planning with regard to energy,agriculture,governence,etc and lets see what you have to offer.

Now a stage has reached where the public is again switiching back to watch tv dramas than so called talk shows which are free for all serving no one except the ANCHORE.
who seem to play a leader, guide, politician,mediator etc etc rather than to simply be a host and a facilitator for communications of the views.

To avoid bringing the dictator to the court and take him to task both the parties PPP and PML N have created a drama. All the actors from both the parties are performing their assigned roles.

I am unable to understand. Whatever be the difficulties that Pakistan faces, its politicians are touching new lows in approaching a country like Saudi Arabia to play mediator.The country is an archaic, corrupt monarchy. How can they (or anybody else) be giving advise on democratic issues? Demcoracies solve their problems themselves and don’t seek advice from outsiders, least of all countries like Saudi.

And is it true that Pakistan is selling farmland to Saudi? Even the dictatorships of Africa ( barring Sudan) are not willing to sell their farmlands. Pakistan will destroy its topsoil, deplete its groundwaters and eat into a legacy that it should hold in trust for its future generations. Sad.

COD? My foot! That was a ploy to fool the public once again by these old hat politicians. Old rivalaries have surfaced and old scores are going to be settled. Country is falling apart but these politicians have blinkers on their eyes. They have only one agenda; to grab power and hold on to power by any means.
Country needs a change at the grass roots. All political parties should give up hereditary leaderships and should organise on a proper democratic footing. Can you guess who is going to be the next president of Pakistan? Pakistani’s are fools relying on dynasties rather than merits.
While the neibouring country is reacing the moon, Pakistan is heading towards catastrophy. Who is going to save Pakistan?

This ultimatum will turn out to be a ‘fizzle’, just like the Indian nuclear tests!

send all the crooked politicians to the cleaners.guys who can be bought or sold will go to the highest bidders.they are compromised;enemies of the country can put a price on them;why nuture them?anybody who is putting them forward should also be looked at.

Nawaz Sharif has a lot to answer for: starting with the judiciary and attacking the supreme court, Kargil, freezing of foreign currency accounts, cheap populist schemes like yellow cab, the proposed ‘ameer ul momeneen’ act among others.

We all know how politics work in our part of the world.Those who say Musharraf should be court martial,they have either forgotten Zia ul haq. Zia ul haq was worst military dictator in the history of sub-continent. Poeple should look at the accomplishments
made during Musharraf and damage done to our political and social system during Zia ulhaq. I personally think both the parties should be banned from election atleast 100 years.Because no one has anything to improve the basic conditions of the Pakistan. We have just celebrated 60 years of independence from british. And look where India is today. Shame on our leaders.

if e want to make Pakistan strong , the only solution is to make more province and give more automony, of course this demand wont be like by CSS officers and polititian who are the ones getting benefits of culprit society.

I concur for a FGCM or Court Martial for Musharaf being an ex Officer.He should be tried under Pakistan Army Act,1952,and it is upto the politicians to repeal amendments made to same law by Musharraf on November 10,2007.Saudi’s have no right to interfere in Pakistani Politics.Ironically it is mostly dictated by US thru its Intelligence agencies.
Interestingly the Court Martial is to be initiated on behest of President of Pakistan,ironically elected by People of Pakistan.

This tiresome game has started all over again, as I knew it would. I have been through it before, not once, not twice, but fully three times before! Not even the faces have changed. Musharraf was doing well on many fronts (except the Militancy one), if only he had strengthened the Judiciary, instead he did the exact opposite. The people of Pakistan, the Media, have been naive bordering on foolishness to expect anything else. There is a dictum in horse racing circles, never bet a second time on a horse that has lost you money once. We have been foolish enough to bet 3 times. Nawaz is waiting in the wings to take over when Zardari and company leave, and the Tamasha will start again. In a region that is on the verge of economic take off due to economic miracles of India on one side, and China on the other, the spoiler seems to be Pakistan/Afghanistan, or Afpak. The world powers know what turmoil will be caused in this region if Pakistan’s house of cards were to collapse. Imagine the economic turmoil that will ensue in this region, doing unimaginable damage to the fragile economic recovery that is taking place in the “World that matters”. This is the context in which to contemplate Afpak. My advice to any one that can pull some weight is: improve Governance in Pakistan, because Governance is abysmal and decrepit; and strengthen the judiciary, to uphold the Rule of Law. Without this, Pakistan is DOOMED, and will take the whole region with it. The Pakistani coffers are empty, and it is because of the American help (yes, America that is the butt of all the hatred of Pakistanis)that the IMF is doling out some money, at very high interest rates, to keep the economy afloat. Also Everybody must watch on Youtube the Pakistani lady Parliamentarian that stole another ladies credit card in a Gym, and immediately went on a shopping spree, but was caught red handed.

Nothing. The proof lies in today’s Dawn (”Royal protocol for Musharraf in Saudi Arabia “). We know the Saudi’s gave Mush royal protocol and we know what Nawaz will be told on his trip to S.A….

And regarding that “other” matter, PML-N has already backed away (see “PML-N bosses find ultimatum counter productive”) and have stated they will not pursue it.

We need new blood and new faces in Pakistani Politics. People, be loyal to yourself and to your country not to the leaders or else you will suffer eternally and will be destined to doom.

It is time that the common man should come out in streets and take all leaders to task.

They both tell truth about the each other … they both lie/hide their own reality …

I think grave of Jinnah be dug up and should be put on trial for leaving Pakistan in the incompitent hands.I am sure he be dieing of guilt in his grave.shame on you all politicians.I wish they should stop crying about what happened in the past and start working on the future becouse they can mend pakistan’s future but can’t change a thing about the past.

For the survival and future prosperity of Pakistan, I will beg to all political parties to divide the country into at least 15 provinces. This will at least neutralize the blame that Punjab which is the largest province of Pakistan (by population) is dominating the whole country. No province in Pakistan should be large enough to bully the state.

Lets rise above the board,forgive the past, start with a new slate with hard tooth pic sledge hammer and build Pakistan.

One person of the family stands in line for flour, another stands in line to get sugar. When they come home, no electricity. Very productive – these politicians have taken money from agencies. I think these people should be banned from running – We should give Atizaz, Javed Hashami & Imran Khan chance to be the leader of the country.(New Generation, New Media and Independent Judiciary)

Both parties are competent to avoid any collission and work together towards political stability which is so badly needed at present.
Pakistan does not need to be held at ransom by dictators or politicians – no matter where they come from. The countries is faced with challenges that need attention first.

n league should show some maturity, they are making the non issues,issues.they know it well that trial of mushraf is not possible as military establishment would not allow this to happen.but still they are making a noise about it and criticizing ppp for not taking action in this regard.
and in the issue of operation mid night jackal and iji instead of defending themselves they are just blaming president house and giving ultimatum to the ppp to mend their ways,but i think n league should mend its ways and should not try to derail the system.
i hope the visit of mr, nawaz sharif to saudia would make the things easy….

This stinks. Here it comes— The Generals are already sharpening their swords.

Pakistan came into existance in the name of Islam, hence it is apprporiate in the current situation to remind ourselves of two verses from the Holy Book (M M Pickthall’s translation):

1. …Is there not among you any upright man? (11.78).

2. And when We would destroy a township We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, and afterward they commit abomination therein, and so the Word (of doom) hath effect for it, and we annihilate it with complete annihilation.(17.16).

May Allah (SWT) have mercy on us in this holy month and show us the straight path again! Aamin!

S K

Are Pakistan’s two major political parties – the PPP and PMLN – on a collision course?
Comment: Yes,they are heavenly destined for such a chemical reaction.

Can the government take steps to avert a showdown with the opposition that would plunge this nation into further political instability?
Comments: Expediency demands such moves.But whatever,a controlled and not all out campaign is PPP compulsion. This is a survival game.

Or is an all-out confrontation between these two major parties one of the best ways to purge Pakistan’s political past of its demons so that democracy can enjoy a new start in this country?

Comments: No sir, this makes little sense, low illiteracy rate gives it a ”elite gossip status’ and no real change can be anticipated. So far, since its inception Pakistan’s political solutions are deals or directions,,,,understandably THROUGH THE GOOD OFFICES OF US and its Saudi friends. The pattern wouldn’t change. Rather it is good that someone is there to steer it at AWAY FROM CHAOS. Politicians are inapt to run this difficult diversified country. Army can if it trains all and have full control and is not dependent on corrupt politicians. It should bring forward non industrialists and non feudal and non elite class and than should go in the background with a valid option to come for kicking out black sheep.

I think neither politician deserves to rule on our nation.

Our politicians are so much wound up in the struggle of their meagre existence that, they completely forget the main reason of democracy.

Their desire to enter in politics is to enhance their personal wealth, powers and ego. They entirely forget main objective of democracy which is to serve the people and the country. From day one they been fighting like dogs and cats, not to serve the nation but to themselves and this is the unfortunate reality.

I hope one day we will have a benevolent leader who can steer this nation out of its misery.

The call for a trial for Pervaiz Musharaf, this is a political game and has nothing to do with justice. The actual reason they are pursuing this shenanigan is to restore themselves into the political platform, by proving Mr. Parvaiz Musharaf wrong, they are hoping to redeem their names and wash their sins. Dragging PPP into this shared they are hoping to kill two birds with one arrow.

They are focusing upon restoring themselves, forgetting the fact that, nation is still at war with the terrorist. Beside terrorists plague we have other several major problems such as poverty, IDPs issues, security of our people and nation, energy crises, inflation, unemployment, lack of justice for individuals, civil laws etc. All these issues require full attention of all branches of our government. But these two individuals are focused just on their miserable existence.

My advice to nation; forget about these two individuals, let the present government focus on real issues which effects masses lives. Demand from your government for opportunities for nation not few self serving individuals.

May God show us the light. Ameen

People please move on! Get off the revenge
band wagon . . . it’s a Road to Nowhere.
Country needs to heal and be united towards progress and not waste it’s time and resources for settling scores. We all have our faults and no one is witout it. Please let’s get on the Road to Progress. This is the most sincere and honorable path to help heal the Nation.

Brig (R) Imtiaz Billa and Gen (R) Asad Durrani after Pakistan Army has been side lined by General Pervez Kiyani from taking part in Pakistan politics are trying establish credibility among the politicians, so that politicians should appraise them what a wonderful job they have done.

I would like to tell to these retired Army Officers that politicians and people of Pakistan do watch and read the news from print and electronic media but they are not distracted at all from the ‘breaking news’ released by them.

Before I comment on PPP-PML(N) relationship, I would like to first take the case of MQM in respect to Jinnahpur.

MQM was never involved in making a state within the state, otherwise by this time, the geographical boundaries of Pakistan would have been different today.

Few people do not want to see MQM which is the third largest political party of Pakistan to see MQM in power.

Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah has made the country for the people of Pakistan and not for few Army General who time and again enter from the back door in the Presidency. These Army General were power hunger and have derailed democracy in the country.

I would like to ask one question to the readers of these columns that why the Indian Army General has not taken over the control of Indian government.

The answer is simple. Indian politicians have never allowed Indian Army Generals to interfere in Indian government’s political role and hence Indian Army Generals are kept out of politics.

It is the fault of Pakistani politicians that instead of settling their differences through democratic process, they invite Pakistan Army Generals to take over the control of the government to oust the sitting government. So once a Pakistani Army General takes over, he do not want to leave the Presidency.

This the first time in the history of Pakistan that two main stream political parties viz. PPP and PML(N) have joined hands to oust Pervez Musharraf from the Presidency and he has seen that there is no more room for Pakistan Army Generals to run democratic system of Pakistan.

I salute the Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani from distancing Pakistan Army from the politics, as he is a real professional and know what the limitations of Pakistan Army are. I am sure that under his guidance, Pakistan Army will play its important role to secure the borders of Pakistan from any foreign invasion.

Coming back on the role of PPP and PML(N) in Pakistan’s politics, I do not think that Mr. Asif Ali Zardari and Mian Nawaz Shariff will ever part from each other.

It is a matter of time and any misunderstanding will be removed on the same day when these two leaders will meet next.

Time will speak itself and Brig (R) Imtiaz Billa or Gen (R) Asad Durrani or Maj. Amir will sooner or later will become past of the relic like Gen (R) Ayub Khan, Gen (R) Yahya Khan, Gen (R) Zial ul Haq and Gen (R) Pervez Musharraf.
There is no more room for the Pakistan’s Army Generals in Pakistan’s politics.

I wish all of them best of luck in their professional duties.

Away from Pakistan for five decades but still carrying a sympathetic heart, I watch events unfold in Pakistan like a soap opera.Politicians of all persuasions appear on television claiming honesty and virtue,prepared to sacrifice all for the country. Who are they kidding? We all know deep down most of them are corrupt and will not hesitate to further their personal cause before the country’s. You only have to look at the gap between haves and the have nots. People taking their own lives in desperation because they can’t feed their children, while the elite live in palaces, eat well and travel to foreign countries with disproportionate entourage on publc funds. Pakistan is cursed with evil politicians. Masses have no choice. Only a Messiah will liberate the oppressed.

I believe none is 100% innocent or 100% guilty in the present campaign initiated by Big. Imtiaz.

Personally I feel he is right to say that MQM was not planning a seperate state but MQM is not 100% clean either. ALL Politicians should be named along with the amounts they recieved from ISI so that we could find out the reality.

I must say here that I believe the END RESULT of this campaign would be to STOP ISI having a political cell and I hope this is the reason behind all this sudden change in the atmosphere. Secondly ISI would not have allowed these guys to blame it if THEY did’t want it, as all of the people with the information are ex-army officers.

OR

someone is preparing the Nation for a major clean up in the country’s political playground???

You need not to be a political wizard or a rocket scientist to know that IJI was created by agencies to counter the PPP. So, Muslim league N should not contest this allegation, rather ask for pardon from the nation and do the right thing in future.

I agree with Salim Akbani’s comment. The military should re-gain its good name by disassociating itself from Musharraf. And court-martial, followed by demotion to the lowest rank and dishonorable discharge is needed in order to avoid having some other ambitious general mis-using his position to take over the country. Will the military have the moral courage to do this? That is the question.

It is very clear that the so called Pandora Box has been opened just to divert the real issues facing the country.
1. To save Mussharaf from the trials he must face for the illegal and unconstitutional steps he took during his dictatorial rule through the judicial process.
2. The corruption at Karachi steel mill.
3. The ill advised and unnecessary Rental power plants.
4. The sugar and Atta crisis,hoarding is illegal and un islamic,and so on.
Come on, its about time some one take the steps to stop bleeding of Pakistan NOW & TODAY. History is full of past scandals and blunders committed by all the dictators in the world, the present living one should be taken to task for befitting lesson.

bunch of con artists!!!!! good for nothing.

Though it is more important to prioritize urgent issues over the past issues, however, it is important ot bring to justice all leaders of at least the near past, about whom people have grievence, starting from Zardari, Nawaz Shareef, Musharaf and the judge. We all agree there are serious unasnwerd questions about all these leaders, not simply Musharraf. Muharraf is the target because under the current cirumstances, he is the weakest link. Also, it is important to recognize, everyone one of them is innocent, until proven guilty. I think if Nawaz Shareef has success in bringing Musharraf to court, it will open up a pandora box. There will open up cases against Zardari, Nawaz Shareef and the judge himself. Also, who ever is able to produce evidence will win. Musharraf does have at least evidence from air traffic control related to the hijacking incident. He will use it only when push shove comes to push. The irony is the judge endorsed him, all along, until the last year of Musharraf’s presidency. I think it the better alternative is to move on with the era of democracy and not open the old graves. Because almost none in our leaders has been angels. Amost all have misused their offices in the past, and there has not been any accoutnablity for them. Why single out only the weakest link? Why not all of them, or none of them.

I won’t be long before we get a new military dictator.

The responsibility for enforcing article six of the constitution squarely lies with the federal government.

well, a new start! ? wht can one say in such a dubious circumstances when even the ministers a are not sure whether the govt will stay or not.

‘n here we have another bunch of issues with MR. IMTIAZ revealing past’s so-called-facts! The man (nawaz sharif) did make mistakes in the past and so did others, but this time everyone (mian sb & B.B.) had been different… They vowed not to repeat past mistakes and we have seen it very well by the acts of Mian Sb. Both Mian brothers are serving the nation in the best possible manner (even better than sindhs government that has federal govts full backing)
Lets suppose PPP is not behind vilifying and slandering of Mian sb. even then being at the center, the largest party and considering the GRAVE Mistakes it amde in the recent past it must act to stop and put an end to this enigma-situation in teh country regarding wht will happen. Rather, it shuld go ahead with putting in place Great Zulfiqar Ali Bhuttos Consititution as it was in 1971 and PUNISH the Culprits of the Nation.

Pervaiz Musharaf should not be blamed: it is the army which is at fault. The Army allowed Musharaf to violate the Constitution of the Republic. There was no way Musharaf on his own could have lifted his hand against the Islamic Republic if his fellow-in-crime (,also alluded to as brothers-of-the-belt) did not back him.
Not only Musharaf should be tried (for Murder of the Republic), but all senior officers of the Army should be tried, and face the ultimate penalty for capital crime.
This is the only way, a genuine resurrection of the Islamic Republic can take place.

1st Sept.’09 – 11.45 AM

I would like to reiterate the opinion expressed by Keti Zilgish. The Provinces should be given autonomy and control over their resources. Right now Punjab is dominating in all spheres and non-Punjabis feel like second class citizens, deprived of their rights & shares and weak, like Bengalis once. It is about time exploitation by one province is stopped and another East Pakistan like calamity avoided.

The best way to handle Musharraf’s trial issue is to have the Army Court Marshalll him for violating his oath as an officer.

My recommendation would be to strip him off his rank, demote him to the lowest soldier’s rank and give him a dishonourable discharge.

Further, he looses all his benefits, pension and gives up all that he as acquired due to his assention through the ranks including his uniform (aka his second skin)

The above is standard procedure that is followed in many countries including Pakistan for officers who show incompetance or deleriction of duty.

He will become a persona non-grata not only in Pakistan but also in the rest of the world. Who would want to patronize a disgraced geeneral who has been dishomourable discharged from his post?

This punishment will be the most befitting punishment. The trial should be a military trial in open forum. Politicians should stay out of it.

The political leadership of Pakistan is very corrupt including Zardari and Nawaz. Neither of them can be trusted to ensure a fair treatment of Musharraf. There will be heavy political taint (NRO and Nawaz’s personal agenda against the General)

A court marshall of Musharraf by his own peers and service memebers will be the most chilling on the mini Bonapartes of the future.

Salim Akbani

I fully agree with one of your readers that democracy will flourish if two so called democracy champs are flushed out of the system. Right now “hamam me sab nange hai”.

Yes this Brigadiar billa seems to be the worst guy I ever have seen and is exposing what our agencies had been into. Its unfortunate and detestable to have these type of people in the agencies.
I personally respect judiciary and and also believe in its independence. Its judicial activism is matchless, even if it rains in any part of country, it takes sou moto action against nature. But how about such a serious issue is debated in every channel about ISI distributing money to strengthen RIGHT WING in Pakistan and judiciary (which already has this case ‘Asghar Khan’) is not responding. Is this silence criminal? Is judiciary independent but not impartial? Is a Punjabi judge protecting a punjabi leader?

Just for facts, I am neither a PPP or PML-N supporter. We know all about Zardari’s ‘merits’ but this handling of media campaign (whether the allegations are true or false, I do not know!) by PML-N has certainly raised a lot of alarms about nawaz sharif in my mind. To all those supporters of Sharif, how can you trust this man as your premier when he has washed his hands out of two of the most important events in his reign…kargil.. blaming it on Musharraf and stating that he was not aware of it .. and this Jinnahpur controversy and operation against MQM … again stating that army initiated it and he was not aware of it. SHOULD the PRIME MINISTER not be taking and be responsible for all the actions of his government and what is the use of being a PM if you can be by passed by others?

The PMLN has solidly aligned itself with the rule of law in Pakistan. The PPP has allowed Zardari to make one attempt after another to undo the rule of law in Pakistan (opposition to restoration of the Supreme Court; disenfranchisement of the entire province of Panjab by “firing” the elected government; opposition to restoration of the Parliament by retaining the dictatorial “over-ride” of parliamentary powers introduced by a military dictator). The MQM, while harping about victimization, harbors within its ranks and leadership individuals responsible for the murder of of peaceful demonstrators on May 12 2007 in a bid to keep the Pakistani people enslaved to a dictator. The freedom struggle of Pakistan will not be over until the scoundrels who hold the people of Pakistan in contempt, considering them unfit to rule themselves, are convinced that they cannot get away with murder any more. And for that to happen, Musharraf must be brought to court and charged with Article 6, with providing terrorists with safe haven in Pakistan for 10 years as part of his double game with terrorism to keep himself in power, with the deaths of hundreds of brave Pakistani soldiers at Kargill, and also with respect to Kargill the launching of that operation as a means to sabotage peace meeting betwen two elected prime ministers. For democracy to survive, the truth must be brought to the open and those who seek to keep the Pakistani people enslaved exposed for what they are – and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Some (like Mr. Khobar) are calling for the trial of the MQM leadership here because they may have a hand in the May 12 deaths. Fine by me! But then, for the sake of justice, are you willing to look into the deaths of the many innocents in the streets of Karachi back in 1992? Or how about some of the innocents who have died during the current counter-insurgency campaign or for that matter in Baluchistan in the 1973-76 campaign and the recent one during Musharraf’s government? Point being almost all of the current champions of democracy have the blood of innocents on their hands.

In this unfortunate country of ours, nobody has a clue as to what justice is. Everyone has a select and limited memory to recount only the wrongs against themselves or their political parties. The way forward is for us to go for justice across the board or you shove the selective justice as there is no place for it in today’s Pakistan. Close this chapter altogether and move on to the future.

Pakistani people have a rotten luck because they cannot get rid of national “leeches” (not leaders mind you). They all carry so much dirty baggage from the past that there is no way that they could become leaders who would be able to galvanize and unite the Pakistani nation. PML-N and PPP are no different in terms of their reach to the Pakistani masses than smaller ethnic parties like ANP and MQM. The politics of PML-N and PPP alike are more about ethnicity and clannishness than caring about the Pakistan of QA.

I say let this showdown happen so people can see through the dirt, malice and chorr-bazaari of all these politicians.
On a lighter note, an English singer/songwriter once commented about the politicians as such:

“All politicians are like a bunch of bananas. They all stick together and all of them are crooked”.

This wrestling is between Zardari & Nawaz Shareef, they have been in wrestling ring two times before, but due to injury they were taken out to hospital for a long time, but this time in wrestling both will not be injured but they will be handicaped for the rest of their life.Both the wrestler’s body will be broken into pieces and they won’t be able to wrestle with each other for the rest of their life, this will be the end of this game. Hope for the new honest and sincere wrestlers to come forward in this ring.

There is much ugliness in the former colonial countries. The very soul and fabric of its present realities is ugliness personified. People think ugly, talk ugly, imagine ugly and act ugly. Beauty in all its form, from physical to spiritual has fled away. People have ceased to have beautiful ideals.

The harmony of freedom, the liberating force of vital and wise knowledge seems illusory. We ridicule the idea that freedom, knowledge and justice are indivisible. Practitioners rule, act falsely and superficially, without any vision and understanding of human destiny. Immediate needs and immediate action are the rule. The exploration and discovery of the laws of life and acting as such are stunned, despised and held in bondage.

Though, one is convinced that everything in life and the rest of the universe works according to certain definite laws, however, the practitioners in their ignorance and crookedness have been interpreting those laws for gaining immediate pleasure and immediate fake security. And in the process man has been subjected to tyranny and suffering.

Nature has been devastated and the creativity and beauty of life has been destroyed. It may be that the practitioners may succeed in destroying humankind and life on this planet. Or it may be that the laws of enlightenment and beauty prevail. As such one should hope, but never lose sight of the ugliness around, and its practitioners.

That is indeed the reality let us face it if we want to …… .

No use bickering about. The Foreign MASTERS & HANDLERS will decide who rules this country. And now we have another joker on the stage – Brig. Imtiaz.
What a circus !

For outside observers like me it appears to be a familiar development and I only hope that better sense would prevail among warring democrats so as not to provide a thin edge to interventionists.

No two major political parties of any country have ever shown so much indifference, and devil- may- care attitude towards the nation that is suffering a death rattle because of it. To me they sound like tow juveniles having a street fight amid their most vulnerable families shocked to death.

The present predicament faced by the major political parties has come to pass because of the reason that our politics is in a real formative phase. The events of last two and a half years have led Pakistan to re-define our politics. Lately, the PML-N seems to have learned its lessons. The others have still not come to terms with the new reality. The recent campaign of reviving few of the dark events in our political history is an effort to stop the march towards a relatively cleaner politics. The PML-N itself should demand of the judiciary to hear Mr. Asghar khan’s petition regarding the distribution of funds among the politicians by ISI in 1990. I think it will have least impact on the PML-N even if some of the PML-N politicians are convicted. Likewise, the PML-N should welcome an inquiry into the 1992 military operations and let the nation know about the realities.

I used to be (still am)a fan of BB (and defended AAZ)but not of PPP before her or after her.

As for NS, I was dead against him till the Indian Prime Minister came to Pakistan and the Pokhran nuclear explosion.

I felt myself to be with NS when he said, “mujhe jamhooriat ka keera lag gia hai.” That was before or just after his return to Pakistan after a long exile.

A clash between NS and Musharraf plus his supporters is inevitable.

May God bless all of us. This is the only thing i can say in view of this new development in our already fragile country.If this country breaks down then no body will remain niether the power full generals nor the politicians or for that matter the political parties. Prudence must prevail at this hour of need.

Well I don’t know how many divisions there were in Pakistan before the present local govt system was brought in. All I know is that, as of now, most non-Punjabis in Pakistan feel as if this country is nothing but a Punjabi colony. The only way i can think of by which we can get across this problem is by making all those ‘divisions’ into ’states’. Present problem areas of Fata and NA could be made ’states’ too. That way we’ll get a new ‘national assembly’ and a clean slate to begin with but we would still have to learn some lessons from Switzerland at least in order to live in peace with all our neighbors and the rest of this world. Moreover by doing something thoroughly ‘unthinkable’ we might even end up being in the enviable position of teaching some others some half way decent lessons.

Noora Kushti! What else.
They are just repeating what they did many
times before. Country will pay! Unfortunately.

Dr S I Ahmad
Barcelona, Spain.

The role of establishment has been known for years but the extent was a secret. However, the recent revelation has exposed the establishment and the politicians.

It appears from the blame game that PPP is behind it and MQM is playing the dirty role
upfront. PPP does not want to repeal the 17th amendment and lack the courage and determination to charge Gen.Musharraf for treason. PPP leadership returned to Pakistan with a deal brokered by masters and friends of Pakistani rulers. The government is afraid of being exposed.

We need another long march to demand a judicial investigation into the role of ISI. All the military and political leaders should be prosecuted for breaking the laws of the land. Any leader found guilty should be punished to the fullest extent of law.

Well, I do think if PPP go for Mushraf trial, then US and Army will not stay present PPP’s Govt. to go ahead. They have deal not to trial against Mushraf. But PML (N) is doing for sake of People’s of Pakistan and democratic process. Practically speaking, CM Punjab is doing best for sake of People of the Punjab. However, other CMs of provinces are just sitting in their drawing room to get new idea of corruption instead of doing any constructive gain for their provinces. I think Nawaz Sharif should take concrete stand against PPP’s worst action on Mushraf Trial issue. I personaly think, If PML (N) again plan LONG MARCH, obviously political stability will suffer from it, but see this issue in longer perspective rather than shortterm, to make this country more properous.

It is just tact to keep the media and nation fool, busy and divert the attention of fialure of the country. Every body knows either current GOVT, or PLM-N are under the entact deals and their guarantors are so powerful they can not dare enough to move single inch. Like me just watch the show and count the episode.

These politicians have not learnt a lesson from their previous mistakes. Most of them are corrupt. The best thing is is not to get involved in revenge politics. They must fotgive nad forget and move forward to save Pakistan. If they fail to do so the nation should never ever forgive these illeterate corrupt politicians who are trying to drag judiciary and army in their dirty game. May Allah (SWT) save Pakistan fron these internal enemies in the name of politicians.

Both parties have skeletons in their cupboards and it is hard to figure out which one is the lesser of the two evils. But the choice for this miserable nation is between bad and the worst. Which is the bad and which is the worst, that is the question!

PML(N) leadership has a very big mouth and PPP needs to shutup their mouth as they are in full majority and do not need any colation from them. PML (N) claims the champion of democracy where the fact is that they are the biggest enemy of democracy and one example is that they wanted to kill the vote bank of MQM and wants to invite the army to rule when they are not in power and for this, the example is that they hijack the lawers movement and forcing the army to takeover. But due to intelegent leadership of PPP they avoided this situation and we expect that PPP will not give any more mercy to PML ( N) as they have the full majority in parliament and will not be black mailed any more.

It is shame to see both major parties are heading to same old confrontation of eighties and ninetees. The people were relieved when leaders of both parties signed CoD and an era of friendship between the leaders and their followers ensued. Ms BB and Mr Nawaz Sharif invested lot of efforts to bring both rivals on the board but unfortunately this amicable relationship is leading to the same old enmity which hounded politics of Pakistan.

Present PPP leadership has gone too far to please a liguist ethnic party which has no qualms to unleash its thugs on its opponents. Last night I was watching Dr Shahid Masood’s Mere Mutabiq in which Miss BB was shown talking to a foreign correspondent and her statement should be an eye opener to her spouse. She clearly said that MQM was a terrorist outfit and has instilled fear into the people and media.

A retired but rogue and discreditted Brig Billa has suddenly appeared and has started talking nothing but lies by trying to give a clean slate to the MQM.

MQM, by hook or crook, has always remained in power. They have no qualms to side with the dictators.

Brig Billa or someone else’s statments in favour of MQM will not be able to vindicate Altaf Hussain

I sincerely hope that judiciary will play its constitutional role to order an investigation and tell the whole nation where MQM stands. The judiciary has already taken an action to investigate 12th May carnage.

Mr Zardari is making a grave mistake of his life to rely upon MQM to confront PML-N. The day is not far when Altaf will stab in PPP’s back and it would be too late by then I am afrad.

Both parties should keep it under controle but it is the right of the people of pakistan to know how dirty games these politician as well as the agencies of this countrly is playing with this poor nation. The media should contiue to keep teh debate alive and the court shall decide once for all and punish whoever is guilty,otherwise, no body can stop this country from disintegartion sooner or later and apparently it seems to be sooner.

I am not a PML(N) supporter but I can say with my experience that this whole drama is staged by PPP to divert the nation’s attention from the main issues, PML(N) view point.

PPP did the same thing when restoration of judiciary issue was on lime light….PPP will keep on playing with the future of Pakistan and there wont be any trial of former chief musharraf…there is a lack of will.

May Allah save our country from these corrupt and worthless leaders.

Democracy in Pakistan will only flourish when the likes of Asif Zardari and Nawaz Sharif are flushed out of the system. Maybe this impending confrontation will do that?

These parties are behaving like the sugar mills owners. They are just after thier personal benefits and do not care a bit for the country’s interesets. Pretty hopeless people in the present dark situation!