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		<title>By: Mustafa</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mustafa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is this Army going to be able to safeguard anything given its record? 

this very same army lost every war it was involved in or started.  

Even this so called proxy war by funding and training the so called freedom fighters for Kashmir now has come back to bite Pakistan in the rear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this Army going to be able to safeguard anything given its record? </p>
<p>this very same army lost every war it was involved in or started.  </p>
<p>Even this so called proxy war by funding and training the so called freedom fighters for Kashmir now has come back to bite Pakistan in the rear.</p>
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		<title>By: m.ali</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-1991</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m.ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[extremism is spreading like epidemic. our army is corrupt and entrenched in civil affairs. can they fight militants? illiteracy means that many in Pakistan side with the taliban. in such condition how can one expect that our nuke are safe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>extremism is spreading like epidemic. our army is corrupt and entrenched in civil affairs. can they fight militants? illiteracy means that many in Pakistan side with the taliban. in such condition how can one expect that our nuke are safe?</p>
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		<title>By: Shazad Akram</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shazad Akram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always thought our Nuclear facilities were safe and secure.

With recent events seemingly pulling Pakistan towards civil war, we must not be relaxed on that front. We probably need more troops guarding these facilities than even the borders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought our Nuclear facilities were safe and secure.</p>
<p>With recent events seemingly pulling Pakistan towards civil war, we must not be relaxed on that front. We probably need more troops guarding these facilities than even the borders.</p>
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		<title>By: bashir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bashir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Imagine AlQueda or Taliban or LET getting hold of these nukes . Their stated goal is to destroy India, Israel, and the west.These terrorists would unleash a fire storm on this planet which could destroy our habitat and our environment. It makes you wonder what their conception of Islam is when killing innocents lands them in heaven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine AlQueda or Taliban or LET getting hold of these nukes . Their stated goal is to destroy India, Israel, and the west.These terrorists would unleash a fire storm on this planet which could destroy our habitat and our environment. It makes you wonder what their conception of Islam is when killing innocents lands them in heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Mr. Pramod kumar 

Do you really think &quot;Sir A Q Khan&quot; has never sold anything to anyone. Just imagine, do you really think that a person like Sir A Q K will have a direct contact with another country&#039;s politicians to sell his product? He was not even allowed to see his own family everyday for the past many many years. he was more guarded then NUKE itself. 

Buddy just open your eyes, do not only listen to media or believe on what you read in the papers. I dont think its the NUKE they are after, its the OIL the Black Gold. 

FYI, when it comes to accidents, most of the countries using atomic energy did had accident in past. Just click on the links below and you will find some familiar names, but not the name of My PAKISTAN. 

Please Check this out
http://archive.greenpeace.org/comms/nukes/chernob/rep02.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/20/world/nuclear-accident-in-india.html

Thanks and Long Live PAKISTAN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr. Pramod kumar </p>
<p>Do you really think &#8220;Sir A Q Khan&#8221; has never sold anything to anyone. Just imagine, do you really think that a person like Sir A Q K will have a direct contact with another country&#8217;s politicians to sell his product? He was not even allowed to see his own family everyday for the past many many years. he was more guarded then NUKE itself. </p>
<p>Buddy just open your eyes, do not only listen to media or believe on what you read in the papers. I dont think its the NUKE they are after, its the OIL the Black Gold. </p>
<p>FYI, when it comes to accidents, most of the countries using atomic energy did had accident in past. Just click on the links below and you will find some familiar names, but not the name of My PAKISTAN. </p>
<p>Please Check this out<br />
<a href="http://archive.greenpeace.org/comms/nukes/chernob/rep02.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.greenpeace.org/comms/nukes/chernob/rep02.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/20/world/nuclear-accident-in-india.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1981/08/20/world/nuclear-accident-in-india.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks and Long Live PAKISTAN.</p>
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		<title>By: shyam</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-1395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shyam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pakistan army is capable of keeping Nuclear arms safe…but the country is weakening economically and militant groups are gaining strength, as civilian govt is  not strong enough to keep the country in control. If the militant groups gain more power, Pakistan will be in their control as well as army. Hear safety is not the wall around it , and the password. The MINDS who controls it. We want you to establish internal stability and use the money for your civilian facilities, instead of weapons. You have right to keep deadly weapons, but keeping them in a civilian govt is more sensible. 

Do you prefer a gun in the hands of a militant or a police officer on duty? A police office uses his gun in the frame work of law, and a militant uses as per his conscious.  

There are several small neighboring countries to India (Nepal, Srilanka,Bangladesh etc) are living in peace with out fears of war with India. We do not want any part of Pakistan, so you can feel safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan army is capable of keeping Nuclear arms safe…but the country is weakening economically and militant groups are gaining strength, as civilian govt is  not strong enough to keep the country in control. If the militant groups gain more power, Pakistan will be in their control as well as army. Hear safety is not the wall around it , and the password. The MINDS who controls it. We want you to establish internal stability and use the money for your civilian facilities, instead of weapons. You have right to keep deadly weapons, but keeping them in a civilian govt is more sensible. </p>
<p>Do you prefer a gun in the hands of a militant or a police officer on duty? A police office uses his gun in the frame work of law, and a militant uses as per his conscious.  </p>
<p>There are several small neighboring countries to India (Nepal, Srilanka,Bangladesh etc) are living in peace with out fears of war with India. We do not want any part of Pakistan, so you can feel safe.</p>
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		<title>By: GJC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GJC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not much for blind patriotism, and certainly not for nationalism. But after reading so many negative comments on the security status of Pakistan&#039;s nuclear weapons, and indeed so many negative comments on Pakistan as a nation, I am compelled to say, Jeevay Pakistan, Jeevay Pakistan, a million times.

Those who predict Pakistan&#039;s downfall and dismiss it as a failed state forget its history of endurance and persistence: Pakistan has endured three wars with India; it has seen persistent internal strife in one form or another; it has seen military dictators come and go; it has seen civilian ruling elite rise and fall; it has played host to the largest number of refugees in history (nearly 4 million during the height of the Afghan War); it has endured the wrath of a superpower (Soviet Union); it has played a pivotal role in defeating the Soviet Union across its borders; it has endured daily terrorist bombings; it has endured persistent economic and military sanctions for decades (yes, 9/11 has punctuated that, but the past was otherwise); it has risen from a nation of hunger and famine to a nation of plenty (yes, Pakistan is one the preeminent agricultural countries now) -to say the least.

There is really no way to tell how safe Pakistan&#039;s nuclear weapons are. But I surmise that the possibility of these things falling in the hands of rogue elements is not lost on Pakistani military leadership. It is entirely childish to think that somehow a few turbaned, gun toting Taliban and the like will walk up to a missile launcher and hijack it. Then somehow find the codes and launch it. But I must say in a twisted way the pressure on Pakistan to secure its weapons has worked to Pakistan&#039;s advantage, namely it has led to securing the weapons to the extent possible. I cannot help but think that without 9/11 and its consequences, as sad as all that is, the security of Pakistani nukes may very well have remained lax.

Likewise, I think India woke up as well and secured its weapons. Both nations are at an early stage of what might be called a regional Cold War. There is a certain maturity that comes with being nuclear weapons states locked in a Cold War. That maturity is in progress in both nations. It will take some time before we all feel safe, but I am convinced that Pakistan and India are maturing as nuclear powers much faster than did the Soviet Union and the United States. And that is something both India and Pakistan can be proud of.

Last, I am a pacifist and an abolitionist. The nuclear weapons must be eliminated from the face of the Earth, and it must be done in an equitable manner. That is the only way to be safe. These weapons symbolize the epitome of human arrogance and folly. How dare we make and amass weapons that can not only eliminate us, but thousands of other species on this planet. Remember, at its height in the late sixties America&#039;s nuclear arsenal comprised nearly 33,000 warheads. And at its height in 1985 or so the arsenal of the Soviet Union comprised nearly 46,000 warheads. And what you know: these are the same folk constantly telling the world not to worry because these weapons are in safe hands. Well, I am done with this &quot;safe if in our hands and dangerous if in yours&quot; ideology.

There are no safe hands to hold nuclear weapons, nor will there be. The emergence of India and Pakistan as nuclear powers is not just regional; it is a systematic outcome of the existence of nuclear weapons in the hands of others and their constant bullying of the rest of the World.

May the Creator grant us all enough wisdom to realize that we have actually designed a way to eliminate our species and then some. May the Creator grant us the wisdom and courage to eliminate this scourge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not much for blind patriotism, and certainly not for nationalism. But after reading so many negative comments on the security status of Pakistan&#8217;s nuclear weapons, and indeed so many negative comments on Pakistan as a nation, I am compelled to say, Jeevay Pakistan, Jeevay Pakistan, a million times.</p>
<p>Those who predict Pakistan&#8217;s downfall and dismiss it as a failed state forget its history of endurance and persistence: Pakistan has endured three wars with India; it has seen persistent internal strife in one form or another; it has seen military dictators come and go; it has seen civilian ruling elite rise and fall; it has played host to the largest number of refugees in history (nearly 4 million during the height of the Afghan War); it has endured the wrath of a superpower (Soviet Union); it has played a pivotal role in defeating the Soviet Union across its borders; it has endured daily terrorist bombings; it has endured persistent economic and military sanctions for decades (yes, 9/11 has punctuated that, but the past was otherwise); it has risen from a nation of hunger and famine to a nation of plenty (yes, Pakistan is one the preeminent agricultural countries now) -to say the least.</p>
<p>There is really no way to tell how safe Pakistan&#8217;s nuclear weapons are. But I surmise that the possibility of these things falling in the hands of rogue elements is not lost on Pakistani military leadership. It is entirely childish to think that somehow a few turbaned, gun toting Taliban and the like will walk up to a missile launcher and hijack it. Then somehow find the codes and launch it. But I must say in a twisted way the pressure on Pakistan to secure its weapons has worked to Pakistan&#8217;s advantage, namely it has led to securing the weapons to the extent possible. I cannot help but think that without 9/11 and its consequences, as sad as all that is, the security of Pakistani nukes may very well have remained lax.</p>
<p>Likewise, I think India woke up as well and secured its weapons. Both nations are at an early stage of what might be called a regional Cold War. There is a certain maturity that comes with being nuclear weapons states locked in a Cold War. That maturity is in progress in both nations. It will take some time before we all feel safe, but I am convinced that Pakistan and India are maturing as nuclear powers much faster than did the Soviet Union and the United States. And that is something both India and Pakistan can be proud of.</p>
<p>Last, I am a pacifist and an abolitionist. The nuclear weapons must be eliminated from the face of the Earth, and it must be done in an equitable manner. That is the only way to be safe. These weapons symbolize the epitome of human arrogance and folly. How dare we make and amass weapons that can not only eliminate us, but thousands of other species on this planet. Remember, at its height in the late sixties America&#8217;s nuclear arsenal comprised nearly 33,000 warheads. And at its height in 1985 or so the arsenal of the Soviet Union comprised nearly 46,000 warheads. And what you know: these are the same folk constantly telling the world not to worry because these weapons are in safe hands. Well, I am done with this &#8220;safe if in our hands and dangerous if in yours&#8221; ideology.</p>
<p>There are no safe hands to hold nuclear weapons, nor will there be. The emergence of India and Pakistan as nuclear powers is not just regional; it is a systematic outcome of the existence of nuclear weapons in the hands of others and their constant bullying of the rest of the World.</p>
<p>May the Creator grant us all enough wisdom to realize that we have actually designed a way to eliminate our species and then some. May the Creator grant us the wisdom and courage to eliminate this scourge.</p>
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		<title>By: Anwar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anwar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell everyone who is asking this question, IT IS NOT SAAAAFE, thus run for your life. One readytogo missile should be planted towards India, another one towards Karzai&#039;s palace, and the third one towards the Dawn press; who even dared to ask this question. Suggestion to Dawn press: Don&#039;t be the part of evil conspiracy against Pakistan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell everyone who is asking this question, IT IS NOT SAAAAFE, thus run for your life. One readytogo missile should be planted towards India, another one towards Karzai&#8217;s palace, and the third one towards the Dawn press; who even dared to ask this question. Suggestion to Dawn press: Don&#8217;t be the part of evil conspiracy against Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should we start how we can control taliban? Also start another blog parallel to this how to change hate philosophy in Pakistan education system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we start how we can control taliban? Also start another blog parallel to this how to change hate philosophy in Pakistan education system?</p>
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		<title>By: Moh</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/03/how-safe-are-pakistans-nukes/comment-page-3/#comment-1387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nuclear assets should be safe, Not accessible to terrorists. In to-days time and age no country can afford to use nuclear bombs. Any user will be chewed up by the civilized world. To think that one is safe with a nuclear bomb is being stupid.
But if they fall in the wrong hands-good bye beautiful world. Pakistan is wasting money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear assets should be safe, Not accessible to terrorists. In to-days time and age no country can afford to use nuclear bombs. Any user will be chewed up by the civilized world. To think that one is safe with a nuclear bomb is being stupid.<br />
But if they fall in the wrong hands-good bye beautiful world. Pakistan is wasting money.</p>
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