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		<title>By: Sklarig</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-5578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sklarig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are not muslims, but are abusing the name of Islam.... They need to be dealt with firmly, lets hope tha Pak army will do a great job in finishing them off completely, and if anyone else has any ambitions to follow suite they will remeber what happened to others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not muslims, but are abusing the name of Islam&#8230;. They need to be dealt with firmly, lets hope tha Pak army will do a great job in finishing them off completely, and if anyone else has any ambitions to follow suite they will remeber what happened to others.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pathan</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-5309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Pathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i have some friends in Dir and Buner, and they have fled from their areas and have the same stories to tell as swatis did. Majority of them are complaning and infact i have seen it my self in swat that army is not conducting the operation seriously and literally they are not after militants, and poor civilians are getting killed. this is the news from the ground and indeed true according to my own experience in swat. i don&#039;t know exactly how the new so called military offensive will impact my people but i would just request please do write this time the military should really focus on eradicating the menace called taliban but it seems remote. For God sake do write about the issue of this half hearted military operation why they are not going after them what is stoping them? Whats the point in killing civilian rather than militants? i will just quote one example that will show the state&#039;s seriusness in war on jihadis: Mingora has been taken over by taliban im sure you will know it. the militant has captured ssp office, saidu hospital, and DIG office as well post office. All these offices are situated in saidu sharif the heavily guarded part of mingora. In previous one and half year operation the militants never dare to take these places but they have done it in spite of heavy presence of law enfrocing agencies. how is it possible that Afzal khan can guard and fight against militant in hot bed mata with few family members and some security guards, but the state forces cant guard district head quarters with all forces and weapon they have. its making the whole operation a cooked up thing and raising some serious concern and expose  govt seriusness in their job. shame on miliatary and pakistan govt for their inability to contain few hundred thugs. all this prove one statement of Afzal khan the lion of swat when he told one tv that talian and army have one comander in chief this meanngful sentence is enough to open our eyes.
The situation and state softness or collaboration has frustrated me thoroughly there is no other way i can put off the burden off my chest but atleast i can write you may be u can raise this issue of our slow death at hands of pak army and mulah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have some friends in Dir and Buner, and they have fled from their areas and have the same stories to tell as swatis did. Majority of them are complaning and infact i have seen it my self in swat that army is not conducting the operation seriously and literally they are not after militants, and poor civilians are getting killed. this is the news from the ground and indeed true according to my own experience in swat. i don&#8217;t know exactly how the new so called military offensive will impact my people but i would just request please do write this time the military should really focus on eradicating the menace called taliban but it seems remote. For God sake do write about the issue of this half hearted military operation why they are not going after them what is stoping them? Whats the point in killing civilian rather than militants? i will just quote one example that will show the state&#8217;s seriusness in war on jihadis: Mingora has been taken over by taliban im sure you will know it. the militant has captured ssp office, saidu hospital, and DIG office as well post office. All these offices are situated in saidu sharif the heavily guarded part of mingora. In previous one and half year operation the militants never dare to take these places but they have done it in spite of heavy presence of law enfrocing agencies. how is it possible that Afzal khan can guard and fight against militant in hot bed mata with few family members and some security guards, but the state forces cant guard district head quarters with all forces and weapon they have. its making the whole operation a cooked up thing and raising some serious concern and expose  govt seriusness in their job. shame on miliatary and pakistan govt for their inability to contain few hundred thugs. all this prove one statement of Afzal khan the lion of swat when he told one tv that talian and army have one comander in chief this meanngful sentence is enough to open our eyes.<br />
The situation and state softness or collaboration has frustrated me thoroughly there is no other way i can put off the burden off my chest but atleast i can write you may be u can raise this issue of our slow death at hands of pak army and mulah.</p>
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		<title>By: hn</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-5291</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again Murad&#039;s response is that Taliban are some how lesser killers than others. Is that a good reason for giving away parts of the democracy to Taliban?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again Murad&#8217;s response is that Taliban are some how lesser killers than others. Is that a good reason for giving away parts of the democracy to Taliban?</p>
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		<title>By: Waad-ur-Rahman</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Waad-ur-Rahman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Government can control the Talibinization not by force but by some serious work. The basic factor in our country is failure of System. No institute of Government Level can perform better without any Positive Approach. As a nation we all are dull so the people involved with Taliban find their Recognition in this Fundamental Approach. We must work on the Classical Psychological principles to call them back from Fundamental Approach. As a member of Human Race it is our responsibility to spread our views if we think we are right. The same agenda has been adopted by Taliban. The Government must take help of the writers of their own region and try to trained them to not act against the national policy of Pakistan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Government can control the Talibinization not by force but by some serious work. The basic factor in our country is failure of System. No institute of Government Level can perform better without any Positive Approach. As a nation we all are dull so the people involved with Taliban find their Recognition in this Fundamental Approach. We must work on the Classical Psychological principles to call them back from Fundamental Approach. As a member of Human Race it is our responsibility to spread our views if we think we are right. The same agenda has been adopted by Taliban. The Government must take help of the writers of their own region and try to trained them to not act against the national policy of Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: MuradS - South Africa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MuradS - South Africa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have Taliban stopped men from learning science and technology? Your answer is likely to be &#039;of course not&#039;. They have focused only on implementing moral code of conduct in may be a harsh way. No body is perfect. 

At least Taliban are not killing people for fun or wanton reasons. They are not perfect. But it is a good attempt on their part for taking precedence in apply Sharia in part of the country. 

Carrying laptops and scientific calculator in pocket does not make people moral or guarantee paradise. 

What good will putting all the woman to work in Pakistan will bring? There is so much unemployment in Pakistan among qualified men. Bringing woman to workforce will do more harm than good. It will obviously bring moral decay of the society and even bring more unemployment among young men. There are qualified new doctors who couldn&#039;g find a job. In such a situation it is better for women to stay at home, rear families, and protect them from immoral behavior.

Taliban can be advise to stop the harsh implementation of Sharia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have Taliban stopped men from learning science and technology? Your answer is likely to be &#8216;of course not&#8217;. They have focused only on implementing moral code of conduct in may be a harsh way. No body is perfect. </p>
<p>At least Taliban are not killing people for fun or wanton reasons. They are not perfect. But it is a good attempt on their part for taking precedence in apply Sharia in part of the country. </p>
<p>Carrying laptops and scientific calculator in pocket does not make people moral or guarantee paradise. </p>
<p>What good will putting all the woman to work in Pakistan will bring? There is so much unemployment in Pakistan among qualified men. Bringing woman to workforce will do more harm than good. It will obviously bring moral decay of the society and even bring more unemployment among young men. There are qualified new doctors who couldn&#8217;g find a job. In such a situation it is better for women to stay at home, rear families, and protect them from immoral behavior.</p>
<p>Taliban can be advise to stop the harsh implementation of Sharia</p>
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		<title>By: Abbas</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abbas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Murad S.

Get your facts right. The people of the country, thats Pakistan by the way, north south east and west voted for the PPP. That is democracy, freedom of choice.

What the taliban and sharia law offer is not.

You seem to think that the militants speak for the entire country.
 If the violent minority want something, it does not mean that the peaceful majority have to give in to them.

You seem to think that the taliban would peacefully administer sharia law, these are the people that  kill women and girls for wanting education.

If the government of Pakistan had sat down with the taliban in open dialog and then asked the country to vote wether they wanted sharia law or not and the people had voted no, you can bet your first born the taliban would have started their campaign of terror.

You can also bet that none of these taliban has sent his children out with a bomb strapped to them just as they have forced other people to send thier children.

Are these the honourable Muslims that you speak so highly of all the way safe and sound from south africa?
The reason the People of Pakistan and not just the military are fighting and resisting the militants and the taliban is that they JUST DONT WANT THEM THERE OR WHAT THEY REPRESENT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Murad S.</p>
<p>Get your facts right. The people of the country, thats Pakistan by the way, north south east and west voted for the PPP. That is democracy, freedom of choice.</p>
<p>What the taliban and sharia law offer is not.</p>
<p>You seem to think that the militants speak for the entire country.<br />
 If the violent minority want something, it does not mean that the peaceful majority have to give in to them.</p>
<p>You seem to think that the taliban would peacefully administer sharia law, these are the people that  kill women and girls for wanting education.</p>
<p>If the government of Pakistan had sat down with the taliban in open dialog and then asked the country to vote wether they wanted sharia law or not and the people had voted no, you can bet your first born the taliban would have started their campaign of terror.</p>
<p>You can also bet that none of these taliban has sent his children out with a bomb strapped to them just as they have forced other people to send thier children.</p>
<p>Are these the honourable Muslims that you speak so highly of all the way safe and sound from south africa?<br />
The reason the People of Pakistan and not just the military are fighting and resisting the militants and the taliban is that they JUST DONT WANT THEM THERE OR WHAT THEY REPRESENT!</p>
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		<title>By: kamrankk</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4845</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamrankk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this government is not serious in tackling taliban issue. Why? because Musharaf taught us one good lesson in his dictatorship,, and that was  &quot;How to plunder other countries wealth without even visiting them&quot;. Oh yes, he was playing this game all along from 9/11 till he was forced by the americans to leave the scene when they realised  He was double crossing them. On one hand he was secretly arming and funding these fanatics so they could challenge the whole world in the name of Islam,,   but on the other hand he threatned the international community of striking in pakistani territory on its own. He assured them that the world would be a better place if &quot;HE&quot;  the then army cheif and president order the security forces of the country to tackle them. But offcourse there was a price for it,,    Billions of dollars in form of military and non military aid,,   but the real price tag was,,  &quot;Donors wouldnt ask where and how the money was spent&quot; . In short, he filled the private coffers of those who helped, whether abroad or in the country.  Iam sure, if the money given to Pakistan in mr musharafs dictatorship is accounted for or audited,  then no trace will be found of it.  So, if the present government is playing the same old trick of exrtacting money out of international comunity by playing the same drama in N.W.F.P  then its no wonder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this government is not serious in tackling taliban issue. Why? because Musharaf taught us one good lesson in his dictatorship,, and that was  &#8220;How to plunder other countries wealth without even visiting them&#8221;. Oh yes, he was playing this game all along from 9/11 till he was forced by the americans to leave the scene when they realised  He was double crossing them. On one hand he was secretly arming and funding these fanatics so they could challenge the whole world in the name of Islam,,   but on the other hand he threatned the international community of striking in pakistani territory on its own. He assured them that the world would be a better place if &#8220;HE&#8221;  the then army cheif and president order the security forces of the country to tackle them. But offcourse there was a price for it,,    Billions of dollars in form of military and non military aid,,   but the real price tag was,,  &#8220;Donors wouldnt ask where and how the money was spent&#8221; . In short, he filled the private coffers of those who helped, whether abroad or in the country.  Iam sure, if the money given to Pakistan in mr musharafs dictatorship is accounted for or audited,  then no trace will be found of it.  So, if the present government is playing the same old trick of exrtacting money out of international comunity by playing the same drama in N.W.F.P  then its no wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: hn</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4839</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Mr. Murad&#039;s description of Taliban, and his flair for crime prevention, it appears that the sole purpose of a true Muslim is to prevent crime at any cost.

What about progress, tolerence, not speading poppy sales for guns, freedom and human rights to all? Aren&#039;t they a tenat for a true Muslim? I believe so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Mr. Murad&#8217;s description of Taliban, and his flair for crime prevention, it appears that the sole purpose of a true Muslim is to prevent crime at any cost.</p>
<p>What about progress, tolerence, not speading poppy sales for guns, freedom and human rights to all? Aren&#8217;t they a tenat for a true Muslim? I believe so.</p>
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		<title>By: Abbas</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abbas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TO Murad S.
 
By the way i do feel the pain, the pain of all the inocent muslims in pakistan who have suffered by the terrorist actions of the taliban in tring to destroy a peaceful muslim country!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO Murad S.</p>
<p>By the way i do feel the pain, the pain of all the inocent muslims in pakistan who have suffered by the terrorist actions of the taliban in tring to destroy a peaceful muslim country!</p>
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		<title>By: Abbas</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/23/buner-swat-part-deux/comment-page-7/#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abbas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Murad S.

Get your facts right. The people of the country, thats Pakistan by the way, north south east and west voted for the PPP. That is democracy, freedom of choice.

What the taliban and sharia law offer is not.

You seem to think that the militants speak for the entire country.
 If the violent minority want something, it does not mean that the peaceful majority have to give in to them.

You seem to think that the taliban would peacefully administer sharia law, these are the people that  kill women and girls for wanting education, these are people that sell opium to fund their activities.

If the government of Pakistan had sat down with the taliban in open dialog and then asked the country to vote wether they wanted sharia law or not and the people had voted no, you can bet the taliban would have started their campaign of terror.

This is because the taliban are being lead by power hungry drug dealing warlords who have no interest in Islam, and they dont like anyone saying no to them.
You can also bet that none of these taliban has sent his children out with a bomb strapped to them just as they have forced other people to send their children.

Are these the honourable Muslims that you speak so highly of all the way safe and sound from south africa?
The reason the People of Pakistan and not just the military are fighting and resisting the militants and the taliban is that they just don&#039;t want them or what they represent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Murad S.</p>
<p>Get your facts right. The people of the country, thats Pakistan by the way, north south east and west voted for the PPP. That is democracy, freedom of choice.</p>
<p>What the taliban and sharia law offer is not.</p>
<p>You seem to think that the militants speak for the entire country.<br />
 If the violent minority want something, it does not mean that the peaceful majority have to give in to them.</p>
<p>You seem to think that the taliban would peacefully administer sharia law, these are the people that  kill women and girls for wanting education, these are people that sell opium to fund their activities.</p>
<p>If the government of Pakistan had sat down with the taliban in open dialog and then asked the country to vote wether they wanted sharia law or not and the people had voted no, you can bet the taliban would have started their campaign of terror.</p>
<p>This is because the taliban are being lead by power hungry drug dealing warlords who have no interest in Islam, and they dont like anyone saying no to them.<br />
You can also bet that none of these taliban has sent his children out with a bomb strapped to them just as they have forced other people to send their children.</p>
<p>Are these the honourable Muslims that you speak so highly of all the way safe and sound from south africa?<br />
The reason the People of Pakistan and not just the military are fighting and resisting the militants and the taliban is that they just don&#8217;t want them or what they represent!</p>
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