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		<title>By: Zahra Ali</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-5/#comment-6268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zahra Ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would share my experience of last sunday&#039;s riots..

I dont exactly remember the reason.. but there were some clashes in progress between two groups. 

As i woke up in the morning, and went out on my terrace to get the newspaper.. it was around 9 am.. i heard some gun shots near by.. and smoke emerging from NIPA chorangi..


i ignored first few as i dint know things were not good outside. later more gunshots continued.. and i also became cautious..went inside . I quickly opened a news channel and came to know that a person was killed at NIPA right then!

I cant tell what i felt. I actually heard a gunshot that killed someone?! 



~ Let there be peace. We are getting immune to voilance.. it dosnt bug as anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would share my experience of last sunday&#8217;s riots..</p>
<p>I dont exactly remember the reason.. but there were some clashes in progress between two groups. </p>
<p>As i woke up in the morning, and went out on my terrace to get the newspaper.. it was around 9 am.. i heard some gun shots near by.. and smoke emerging from NIPA chorangi..</p>
<p>i ignored first few as i dint know things were not good outside. later more gunshots continued.. and i also became cautious..went inside . I quickly opened a news channel and came to know that a person was killed at NIPA right then!</p>
<p>I cant tell what i felt. I actually heard a gunshot that killed someone?! </p>
<p>~ Let there be peace. We are getting immune to voilance.. it dosnt bug as anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Alam K.</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-5/#comment-6246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alam K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pain &amp; miseries inflicted by Talibans on the residents of Swat &amp; surrounding area are being compounded by unbridled lust for power by MQM &amp; their new found friend JSQM.
It is not the fear of Talibans but fear of losing control over Karachi that motivated MQM to block the entry of displaced people.
MQM&#039;s philosophy - &quot;what is mine; is mine, what is yours is negotiable&quot;. War in Swat is a national tragedy. If we don&#039;t extend a helping hand to displaced, the consequences are beyond imagination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pain &amp; miseries inflicted by Talibans on the residents of Swat &amp; surrounding area are being compounded by unbridled lust for power by MQM &amp; their new found friend JSQM.<br />
It is not the fear of Talibans but fear of losing control over Karachi that motivated MQM to block the entry of displaced people.<br />
MQM&#8217;s philosophy &#8211; &#8220;what is mine; is mine, what is yours is negotiable&#8221;. War in Swat is a national tragedy. If we don&#8217;t extend a helping hand to displaced, the consequences are beyond imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: dr vimal raina</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-5/#comment-6156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dr vimal raina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am an Indian. I have a solution for the problem in Karachi. 

We need a dedicated group of about 1oo workers who are ready to sacrifice themselves for humanity. The solution is Gandhi&#039;s policy of non violence and satyagraha. It can start with one dedicated worker who sits in the centre of the city in fast unto death till the political parties dont come together to solve this ethnic problem. More people have to join him till it becomes a big voice in silence. Let Pathans and mohajirs and balochis and sindhis join in and not be afraid of guns and violence. Let it grow into a movement. God willing, I see and end to this madness]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Indian. I have a solution for the problem in Karachi. </p>
<p>We need a dedicated group of about 1oo workers who are ready to sacrifice themselves for humanity. The solution is Gandhi&#8217;s policy of non violence and satyagraha. It can start with one dedicated worker who sits in the centre of the city in fast unto death till the political parties dont come together to solve this ethnic problem. More people have to join him till it becomes a big voice in silence. Let Pathans and mohajirs and balochis and sindhis join in and not be afraid of guns and violence. Let it grow into a movement. God willing, I see and end to this madness</p>
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		<title>By: u.s. citizen</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[u.s. citizen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why has this issue suddenly come to light? Why hasn&#039;t the previous administration (Musharraf) addressed these militants while he was in office?

As an outsider looking in, can you tell the world what has caused the sudden upsurge in mass violence in your country?

Where do the people place the blame on what is happening, and how do they think the issue or issues can be served?

What are the people&#039;s suggestion for a solution to what is happening?
 
Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has this issue suddenly come to light? Why hasn&#8217;t the previous administration (Musharraf) addressed these militants while he was in office?</p>
<p>As an outsider looking in, can you tell the world what has caused the sudden upsurge in mass violence in your country?</p>
<p>Where do the people place the blame on what is happening, and how do they think the issue or issues can be served?</p>
<p>What are the people&#8217;s suggestion for a solution to what is happening?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i agree with ameen.its high time karachi gets its fair share.and as far as refugees coming from northern areas is concerned...i was watching a program arnd 2 days ago where one refugee stated &quot;hum koi hindustani yah muhajir thori hain..hamara pakistan per poora haq hai&quot; indeed they have the right.
however its really sad to know that people still have this sorta mentality.its a shame.if the ethnic divide is so strong...i dont see us going anywhere...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with ameen.its high time karachi gets its fair share.and as far as refugees coming from northern areas is concerned&#8230;i was watching a program arnd 2 days ago where one refugee stated &#8220;hum koi hindustani yah muhajir thori hain..hamara pakistan per poora haq hai&#8221; indeed they have the right.<br />
however its really sad to know that people still have this sorta mentality.its a shame.if the ethnic divide is so strong&#8230;i dont see us going anywhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M Saleem Chaudhry</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Saleem Chaudhry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This kind of brutal happenings are the work of organised extremists groups of people,under the cover and with the support of their patrons in power for the fulfillment of their ulterior motives.As a resident of Gulistan-e-Johar reported dinning firing ,can&#039;t be work of a few individuals and the pertinent question is where were the security forces and what kind of preoccupations,they were involved in?Has any probing been ordered and duly conducted on this account?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of brutal happenings are the work of organised extremists groups of people,under the cover and with the support of their patrons in power for the fulfillment of their ulterior motives.As a resident of Gulistan-e-Johar reported dinning firing ,can&#8217;t be work of a few individuals and the pertinent question is where were the security forces and what kind of preoccupations,they were involved in?Has any probing been ordered and duly conducted on this account?</p>
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		<title>By: ASHOK</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ASHOK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An overcrowded city,An inept political system,A corrupt social system, raciest leaders, A very frustated and largely unemployed youth,A parllel adminstration run by Mobesters and Dons then the state adminstrations,A religous uphivel orchastraited by Taliban or religous fanatics,are the main reasons why Karachi is burning today.If you see then you will find karachi no different then Mogadishu where war lords deterimine the order of the day and sanity will prevail only if the basic mindset of the people is changed otherwise Karachi is set to be doomed ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An overcrowded city,An inept political system,A corrupt social system, raciest leaders, A very frustated and largely unemployed youth,A parllel adminstration run by Mobesters and Dons then the state adminstrations,A religous uphivel orchastraited by Taliban or religous fanatics,are the main reasons why Karachi is burning today.If you see then you will find karachi no different then Mogadishu where war lords deterimine the order of the day and sanity will prevail only if the basic mindset of the people is changed otherwise Karachi is set to be doomed </p>
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		<title>By: ameen</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ameen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karachi is a metropolis and it generates more than 70% of our revenue. It&#039;s about time, the city of Karachi gets its fare share. I feel the City has been literally robbed since the creation of Pakistan by our ruling elites from the North.  The creation of ethnic parties in Karachi was a result of years of looting and disproportionate allocation of resources. Has anyone looked at the so called &quot;Quota System&quot; of ours?  Where Karachiets who represent more than 10% of the total population are only allocated 2% of the available federal jobs and educational opportunities. 
The entire police force of Karachi comprises of non-Karachiets. All federal offices in the city are filled with non-Karachiets who were appointed on the bases of their domicile-courtesy of our quota system.
As a Karachiet I welcome any Pakistani to our biggest and the &quot;brightest&quot; city, all I ask is that you respect the city and treat it as your own home]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karachi is a metropolis and it generates more than 70% of our revenue. It&#8217;s about time, the city of Karachi gets its fare share. I feel the City has been literally robbed since the creation of Pakistan by our ruling elites from the North.  The creation of ethnic parties in Karachi was a result of years of looting and disproportionate allocation of resources. Has anyone looked at the so called &#8220;Quota System&#8221; of ours?  Where Karachiets who represent more than 10% of the total population are only allocated 2% of the available federal jobs and educational opportunities.<br />
The entire police force of Karachi comprises of non-Karachiets. All federal offices in the city are filled with non-Karachiets who were appointed on the bases of their domicile-courtesy of our quota system.<br />
As a Karachiet I welcome any Pakistani to our biggest and the &#8220;brightest&#8221; city, all I ask is that you respect the city and treat it as your own home</p>
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		<title>By: A Sister</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Sister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, since Karachi already has a population far more than it can handle, and this over-crowding has left the city&#039;s infrastructure in shambles -- in my opinion the authorities in Karachi are entitled to keep a check on the city&#039;s population growth both through family planning and strict legal restrictions on admitting refugees from other parts of the country and Afghanistan. However, before taking such measures, laws &amp; rules must be framed to that affect and then the necessary steps be taken accordingly.  Needless to say, vigilante justice by resorting to violence is totally unacceptable, regardless of the motives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since Karachi already has a population far more than it can handle, and this over-crowding has left the city&#8217;s infrastructure in shambles &#8212; in my opinion the authorities in Karachi are entitled to keep a check on the city&#8217;s population growth both through family planning and strict legal restrictions on admitting refugees from other parts of the country and Afghanistan. However, before taking such measures, laws &amp; rules must be framed to that affect and then the necessary steps be taken accordingly.  Needless to say, vigilante justice by resorting to violence is totally unacceptable, regardless of the motives.</p>
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		<title>By: Rain-Walker</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/04/30/karachi-violence-what-have-you-seen/comment-page-4/#comment-5587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rain-Walker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting discussion.  So .. who are these people who are making trouble in Karachi?  Foreigners may be involved.  But if the local law enforcers don&#039;t even have any suspects in mind, how are they going to start their job of investigation in the first place?  And during this process of doing nothing, the sufferers of Karachi will only have to wait for the violent ruckus to start somewhere again.  

Not to mention, that statement claiming “WE CONDEMN IT ALL” is an insult to any civilizded society.  It&#039;s not even worth commenting upon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion.  So .. who are these people who are making trouble in Karachi?  Foreigners may be involved.  But if the local law enforcers don&#8217;t even have any suspects in mind, how are they going to start their job of investigation in the first place?  And during this process of doing nothing, the sufferers of Karachi will only have to wait for the violent ruckus to start somewhere again.  </p>
<p>Not to mention, that statement claiming “WE CONDEMN IT ALL” is an insult to any civilizded society.  It&#8217;s not even worth commenting upon.</p>
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