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		<title>By: Tauseef Shahzad</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-10806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tauseef Shahzad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Government is trying to get everything out of pocket of salaried people. 

What extra tax has been applied on industrialists for this purpose?

Are feudal lords are being charged anything for IDPs. Government is targeting only salaried individuals.  Have the Zardaris, Jatois, Chaudhrys etc. been taxed on billions of rupees they are earning from agriculture at all?

What tax did Zardari, Nawaz Sharif or Shaukat Tareen have filed this year or last year, we salaried people, want to know]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government is trying to get everything out of pocket of salaried people. </p>
<p>What extra tax has been applied on industrialists for this purpose?</p>
<p>Are feudal lords are being charged anything for IDPs. Government is targeting only salaried individuals.  Have the Zardaris, Jatois, Chaudhrys etc. been taxed on billions of rupees they are earning from agriculture at all?</p>
<p>What tax did Zardari, Nawaz Sharif or Shaukat Tareen have filed this year or last year, we salaried people, want to know</p>
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		<title>By: Naeem from Doha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naeem from Doha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i wonder how and why the educated and sensible Pakistanis get intoxicated with Anti Islam and Anti pakistan media prapoganda primarily directed to damage somehow our national interests.It is most humbly reuqested to percive the things in their true context and only then words may be given to ideas. 
As far as IDPs are concern, 100% responsibility lies on US. 
Pakistan Govt should had convinced USA to compensate collateral damage being done to Army and civilian to kick off operation. Please put yourself in place of someone residingin SWAT who might have lost whole family, kins and assets and then comment. It is very easy to sit far and fight a war of words but remember &quot;its the bearer knows where shoe pinches are&quot; Think and act like a true muslime and patriotic Pakistani not a western impressed  people who ahve lost their identity and now they are like light pieces of dry staws flying in air. 
Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder how and why the educated and sensible Pakistanis get intoxicated with Anti Islam and Anti pakistan media prapoganda primarily directed to damage somehow our national interests.It is most humbly reuqested to percive the things in their true context and only then words may be given to ideas.<br />
As far as IDPs are concern, 100% responsibility lies on US.<br />
Pakistan Govt should had convinced USA to compensate collateral damage being done to Army and civilian to kick off operation. Please put yourself in place of someone residingin SWAT who might have lost whole family, kins and assets and then comment. It is very easy to sit far and fight a war of words but remember &#8220;its the bearer knows where shoe pinches are&#8221; Think and act like a true muslime and patriotic Pakistani not a western impressed  people who ahve lost their identity and now they are like light pieces of dry staws flying in air.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Naila malik</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-8323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naila malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we are sorry for yor current situation it is because of lack of planning by our leaders who dont even bother to pay you a visit we are sorry we can do nothing but pray]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are sorry for yor current situation it is because of lack of planning by our leaders who dont even bother to pay you a visit we are sorry we can do nothing but pray</p>
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		<title>By: @Noon</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-8201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[@Noon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A shelter can not be called home, so whatever we do, will never be enough for the people of Swat.

Though one question comes to my mind, that is transparency ... ? Whatever we pay to government, will it be utilized to help people of Swat of it will go into the pockets of bureaucrats???

Government imposed 5% IDP tax on the salaried persons, I don&#039;t see parliamentarian giving up their salaries to the IDPs.

It seems to be another scam by high ups to get money from the masses.

My appeal to you all, if you really wish to donate, Try to do something yourself. At least there will be a chance that your effort might help some IDP. I doubt that govt. fund would do any good. Just like in past in the case of EarthQuake or Qarz-Utaro scheme. Richer got richer and the aid vanished in smoke. There is no accoubtability .... so Please donate generously but in a way that benefit actually reaches to our brothers and sisters of Sawat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A shelter can not be called home, so whatever we do, will never be enough for the people of Swat.</p>
<p>Though one question comes to my mind, that is transparency &#8230; ? Whatever we pay to government, will it be utilized to help people of Swat of it will go into the pockets of bureaucrats???</p>
<p>Government imposed 5% IDP tax on the salaried persons, I don&#8217;t see parliamentarian giving up their salaries to the IDPs.</p>
<p>It seems to be another scam by high ups to get money from the masses.</p>
<p>My appeal to you all, if you really wish to donate, Try to do something yourself. At least there will be a chance that your effort might help some IDP. I doubt that govt. fund would do any good. Just like in past in the case of EarthQuake or Qarz-Utaro scheme. Richer got richer and the aid vanished in smoke. There is no accoubtability &#8230;. so Please donate generously but in a way that benefit actually reaches to our brothers and sisters of Sawat.</p>
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		<title>By: Asmat Jamal</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-8112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asmat Jamal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The unending cycle of voilence generated by Soviet invasion augmented by 9/11 does not seem to end. Pashtuns have suffered for three decade. Killed by Soviets, than US, NATO and now by their own kith and kin! Thanks to foriegn money for replacing Schools with Madrissas. Thanks to people for the 9/11 events culminating in the death and destruction of Pashtuns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unending cycle of voilence generated by Soviet invasion augmented by 9/11 does not seem to end. Pashtuns have suffered for three decade. Killed by Soviets, than US, NATO and now by their own kith and kin! Thanks to foriegn money for replacing Schools with Madrissas. Thanks to people for the 9/11 events culminating in the death and destruction of Pashtuns.</p>
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		<title>By: Nasir Shah</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-8042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nasir Shah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The internationl donor agencies should start monitoring this aid &amp; see that it is utilized appropriately as the Pakistani State will surely fail to achieve desired results. I am not being unpatriotic, but past experiences have proved that both the civil administration &amp; the Army have always failed to get a simple job accomplished, leave alone a crisis of this order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internationl donor agencies should start monitoring this aid &amp; see that it is utilized appropriately as the Pakistani State will surely fail to achieve desired results. I am not being unpatriotic, but past experiences have proved that both the civil administration &amp; the Army have always failed to get a simple job accomplished, leave alone a crisis of this order.</p>
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		<title>By: shaukat ali chughtai</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-7779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shaukat ali chughtai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be mushroom growth of various individual organizations functioning to collect donations and food supplies, clothing etc. from the homes and from people in every walk of life. Who authorized these individuals or organizations to expploit resources.  Who will assure that these collected donations will go to IDPs, it never happened during terrific earthquake. 

Let public be advised to select those institutions which are registered somewhere to transport what they are donating.

People will again be robbed in the name of IDPs and no one will ever know where the supplies were transported. Is government aware of these organizations, are there any accountability standards established. Is there anyorganization who would take responsibility to collect and transport. I leave it to the readers to give additional thoughts in this regard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be mushroom growth of various individual organizations functioning to collect donations and food supplies, clothing etc. from the homes and from people in every walk of life. Who authorized these individuals or organizations to expploit resources.  Who will assure that these collected donations will go to IDPs, it never happened during terrific earthquake. </p>
<p>Let public be advised to select those institutions which are registered somewhere to transport what they are donating.</p>
<p>People will again be robbed in the name of IDPs and no one will ever know where the supplies were transported. Is government aware of these organizations, are there any accountability standards established. Is there anyorganization who would take responsibility to collect and transport. I leave it to the readers to give additional thoughts in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Sukhrani</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2009/06/17/whos-helping-the-idps/comment-page-1/#comment-7648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ali Sukhrani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can one even say that enough is being for the IDP&#039;s.

Even enough is not enough for the people who have been displaced for no fault of their own. These are very proud people who have had to run from their homes, have their women be seen in public and made to look like strangers in their own country. When a citizen cannot even travel with his own borders, how much does it say for the government of the day? Noone can stop the movement of a citizen of any country, with its boundaries as it would be against the very essence of our Constitution.
As for the international community. No argument over what organizations such the U.N and other NGO&#039;s have performed and have been performing for the past many decades. But we have to look at it from their perspective. They have logistical problems on top of the security aspects on the ground. 
Yes more can be done but only if we start looking inwards and address the root causes of all our problem]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can one even say that enough is being for the IDP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Even enough is not enough for the people who have been displaced for no fault of their own. These are very proud people who have had to run from their homes, have their women be seen in public and made to look like strangers in their own country. When a citizen cannot even travel with his own borders, how much does it say for the government of the day? Noone can stop the movement of a citizen of any country, with its boundaries as it would be against the very essence of our Constitution.<br />
As for the international community. No argument over what organizations such the U.N and other NGO&#8217;s have performed and have been performing for the past many decades. But we have to look at it from their perspective. They have logistical problems on top of the security aspects on the ground.<br />
Yes more can be done but only if we start looking inwards and address the root causes of all our problem</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq Mian, Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tariq Mian, Canada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The innocent/miserable children of the IDPs are giving tears to others because of their plight.
These  helpless and vulnerable kids  make almost everyone &#039;CRY&#039; a lot.
All neighbouring countries should come on board to enhance the relief effort for re-settling the IDPs and their kids.
All resources must be engaged appropriately sooner than later.
Only, a strategical handling can provide a qualitative relief to the affected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The innocent/miserable children of the IDPs are giving tears to others because of their plight.<br />
These  helpless and vulnerable kids  make almost everyone &#8216;CRY&#8217; a lot.<br />
All neighbouring countries should come on board to enhance the relief effort for re-settling the IDPs and their kids.<br />
All resources must be engaged appropriately sooner than later.<br />
Only, a strategical handling can provide a qualitative relief to the affected.</p>
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		<title>By: Syed Kemal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syed Kemal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All people of Pakistan, who are capable to support these needy people, they must support with all their surplus resources they have. Otherwise they will be questioned by AlMighty Allah at the day of judgement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All people of Pakistan, who are capable to support these needy people, they must support with all their surplus resources they have. Otherwise they will be questioned by AlMighty Allah at the day of judgement.</p>
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