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		<title>By: Iqbal</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Iqbal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that the office of President has the immunity from his actions taken to perform his duties.Can some one explain that it also gives immunity if the honourable president is blamed to have acquired funds in a dishonest way,which have nothing to do with his duties as a president.There is a urgent need for our Parlimentarians,including opposition members in the national assembly to revisit the priviledge of immunity to office holders.Also the media can also help to high light this controversial issue,which has put the whole nation off the track of normal daily business.It is also an issue of standard of morality for all the important personalities who are running the government.For God&#039;s sake set some good examples of morality for rest of the nation to follow your example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the office of President has the immunity from his actions taken to perform his duties.Can some one explain that it also gives immunity if the honourable president is blamed to have acquired funds in a dishonest way,which have nothing to do with his duties as a president.There is a urgent need for our Parlimentarians,including opposition members in the national assembly to revisit the priviledge of immunity to office holders.Also the media can also help to high light this controversial issue,which has put the whole nation off the track of normal daily business.It is also an issue of standard of morality for all the important personalities who are running the government.For God&#8217;s sake set some good examples of morality for rest of the nation to follow your example.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbab Zahid</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arbab Zahid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Current superfluous hale by the apex court is a futile scramble having no outcome for the public suffering from unemployment, inflation, deteriorating law and order situation and corruption. Myriad of unheared cases are pending in lower courts. Most of the suspects have crossed the detention exceeding the maximum sentence period for the crime he has been accuse, helplessly looking for the proceeding to be initiated. Corruption has reached to the extent that even a widow can&#039;t draw her late husbands fidding sum of pension without giving bribe. Supreme court instead of deluding the public must sincerely put its efforts to provide justice instead of this tug of war.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Current superfluous hale by the apex court is a futile scramble having no outcome for the public suffering from unemployment, inflation, deteriorating law and order situation and corruption. Myriad of unheared cases are pending in lower courts. Most of the suspects have crossed the detention exceeding the maximum sentence period for the crime he has been accuse, helplessly looking for the proceeding to be initiated. Corruption has reached to the extent that even a widow can&#8217;t draw her late husbands fidding sum of pension without giving bribe. Supreme court instead of deluding the public must sincerely put its efforts to provide justice instead of this tug of war.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Merchant</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89411</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammad Merchant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think both parliament and judiciary has to work within their domain.It looks like that Judiciary is not independent.They are not treating all politicians case equally.They are covering Sharif&#039;s family&#039; cases and trying to damage the ppp government.Judiciary has done nothing for the common people whose cases are pending in court since years without justice.Parliament&#039;s job is to make law and judiciary&#039;s job to interpret the law.In-case of differences speaker&#039;s and election commissioner are the final authority as per constitution.So judiciary and specially this chief justice is trying to dictate his power.Because of Judiciary now lawyers are taking law in their hand as we have seen they are physically hurting police forces.Now is the time to stop judiciary to go beyond their domain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both parliament and judiciary has to work within their domain.It looks like that Judiciary is not independent.They are not treating all politicians case equally.They are covering Sharif&#8217;s family&#8217; cases and trying to damage the ppp government.Judiciary has done nothing for the common people whose cases are pending in court since years without justice.Parliament&#8217;s job is to make law and judiciary&#8217;s job to interpret the law.In-case of differences speaker&#8217;s and election commissioner are the final authority as per constitution.So judiciary and specially this chief justice is trying to dictate his power.Because of Judiciary now lawyers are taking law in their hand as we have seen they are physically hurting police forces.Now is the time to stop judiciary to go beyond their domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalsum</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kalsum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An ironic truth which we can never ignore is that our judiciary has always backed up a military regime and has made firm the footsteps of a military coup. Each military regime’s foundations got stronger with the support of legal protection that was provided by the judiciary and legislature of the country. Military regimes for a fact have ruled over the country much longer than any of its democratic counterpart and have badly hit the whole democratic structure, which after 65 years of independence is still in its infancy. For that not just the military is guilty but the judiciary is responsible for its undemocratic steps since it provided a legalistic rationale for all military adventures in Pakistan. History could provide you with multiple examples and evidences of such practices carried out by justices, the latest of which could be the protection and legal cover given to General Musharraf’s rule. Another sad and evident example to justify Zia-ul-Haq’s illegal and unconstitutional regime in the mid-1970s was the enigma of “doctrine of necessity” invoked by the justices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ironic truth which we can never ignore is that our judiciary has always backed up a military regime and has made firm the footsteps of a military coup. Each military regime’s foundations got stronger with the support of legal protection that was provided by the judiciary and legislature of the country. Military regimes for a fact have ruled over the country much longer than any of its democratic counterpart and have badly hit the whole democratic structure, which after 65 years of independence is still in its infancy. For that not just the military is guilty but the judiciary is responsible for its undemocratic steps since it provided a legalistic rationale for all military adventures in Pakistan. History could provide you with multiple examples and evidences of such practices carried out by justices, the latest of which could be the protection and legal cover given to General Musharraf’s rule. Another sad and evident example to justify Zia-ul-Haq’s illegal and unconstitutional regime in the mid-1970s was the enigma of “doctrine of necessity” invoked by the justices.</p>
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		<title>By: AmirDewani</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AmirDewani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First make sure that the constitution is the supreme law and that the supreme Court means a supreme body to determine what a piece of law is, what it means and where and how it must be applied or may not be applied.
Second, the parliamentarians don&#039;t have an Open General License (O.G.L )to change, amend, add or substract the provisions of this supreme law of the land. If they are allowed to do that, then they might even remove the preamble from being a part of the constitution. And remember the preamble talks about the supremacy of the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which guarantees protection of lives and liberties of the citizens and disciplines the paramount institutions to work in unison for the general well being of the people.
Third, with the passage of times the parliamentarians may come and go, but the constitution remains, subject to any legislation by the parliament in the interest of the common good; not to provide them a shield to terrorize the whole nation or to create friction among the institutions as has been done recently.
Finally, lack of education, lack of technology, lack of innovation and lack of the will to remain current with the times are the factors poisoning the atmosphere which only the voters have the right to get rid of. But, who has the time, the will and the loyalty to think about my points noted above?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First make sure that the constitution is the supreme law and that the supreme Court means a supreme body to determine what a piece of law is, what it means and where and how it must be applied or may not be applied.<br />
Second, the parliamentarians don&#8217;t have an Open General License (O.G.L )to change, amend, add or substract the provisions of this supreme law of the land. If they are allowed to do that, then they might even remove the preamble from being a part of the constitution. And remember the preamble talks about the supremacy of the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which guarantees protection of lives and liberties of the citizens and disciplines the paramount institutions to work in unison for the general well being of the people.<br />
Third, with the passage of times the parliamentarians may come and go, but the constitution remains, subject to any legislation by the parliament in the interest of the common good; not to provide them a shield to terrorize the whole nation or to create friction among the institutions as has been done recently.<br />
Finally, lack of education, lack of technology, lack of innovation and lack of the will to remain current with the times are the factors poisoning the atmosphere which only the voters have the right to get rid of. But, who has the time, the will and the loyalty to think about my points noted above?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Waheed</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abdul Waheed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very right in saying that judiciary is behaving like spoiled children. This has become a trouble making institution not only for the government but also for economy of the country. You are also right that actually he is not against corruption and he should have resigned when charges of huge corruption / blackmailing came into surface on his son. He is a highly selfish person who for his personal ego / heroism / lust for authority has been confronting with other organs / institutions of the country and destroying the economy of the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very right in saying that judiciary is behaving like spoiled children. This has become a trouble making institution not only for the government but also for economy of the country. You are also right that actually he is not against corruption and he should have resigned when charges of huge corruption / blackmailing came into surface on his son. He is a highly selfish person who for his personal ego / heroism / lust for authority has been confronting with other organs / institutions of the country and destroying the economy of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammed</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/07/10/government-judiciary-on-collision-course/comment-page-1/#comment-89344</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohammed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately the CJ is trying to settle his personal vendetta against Zardari which un-intentionally is hurting the fragile democracy in Pakistan.  The constitution grants immunity to the sitting president which must be respected.   If that is not enough the parliament can amendment the constitution accordingly.  Should the CJ consider it so important to punish Zardari he can find other ways after he vacates the office.  By the way it is useless to write any such letter.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the CJ is trying to settle his personal vendetta against Zardari which un-intentionally is hurting the fragile democracy in Pakistan.  The constitution grants immunity to the sitting president which must be respected.   If that is not enough the parliament can amendment the constitution accordingly.  Should the CJ consider it so important to punish Zardari he can find other ways after he vacates the office.  By the way it is useless to write any such letter.   </p>
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		<title>By: DR Bakht</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DR Bakht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both are supreme and both should respect each other and should find solution keeping in mind not only constitutional wordings but spirit hidden within. I think any loss to one institution will lead damage to another ultimately. So keep distance and avoid overtaking as road is curvy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both are supreme and both should respect each other and should find solution keeping in mind not only constitutional wordings but spirit hidden within. I think any loss to one institution will lead damage to another ultimately. So keep distance and avoid overtaking as road is curvy.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vijay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is strange. If court can not hold the political and administrative machinery of state to enforce its decision, the judcial authority as we have known since enforcement of public order and descipline for governance and well being of population at large will be no more. If it happens in Pakistan, the powerful people in other coutries may also take it as a model. We will reveret back by almost 500 years of civilized human development on thsi score.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is strange. If court can not hold the political and administrative machinery of state to enforce its decision, the judcial authority as we have known since enforcement of public order and descipline for governance and well being of population at large will be no more. If it happens in Pakistan, the powerful people in other coutries may also take it as a model. We will reveret back by almost 500 years of civilized human development on thsi score.</p>
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		<title>By: kaiser</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear mr. Agha Ata, we are not discussing the chief justice&#039;s qualification but his prejudices.I suppose you missed the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear mr. Agha Ata, we are not discussing the chief justice&#8217;s qualification but his prejudices.I suppose you missed the point.</p>
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