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		<title>By: javed</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-92386</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please give even one example where a minority religion is peacefully co-existing with another by ridiculing and INSULTing the majority&#039;s religious figures? The examples you have given the people are disagreeing not insulting. Jews disagree on jesus, they dont insult. Muslims disagree with jesus as son of god they dont insult. etc. etc. Only Shias insult and apply labels to religious figures. This doesnt condone killing them but they are doing themselves a favour by acting this way. It only helps add to the bias against them. How would American muslims be perceived if they all said yes we love osama.???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please give even one example where a minority religion is peacefully co-existing with another by ridiculing and INSULTing the majority&#8217;s religious figures? The examples you have given the people are disagreeing not insulting. Jews disagree on jesus, they dont insult. Muslims disagree with jesus as son of god they dont insult. etc. etc. Only Shias insult and apply labels to religious figures. This doesnt condone killing them but they are doing themselves a favour by acting this way. It only helps add to the bias against them. How would American muslims be perceived if they all said yes we love osama.???</p>
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		<title>By: salman</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-92358</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes this is not true. its just a propaganda against majalis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes this is not true. its just a propaganda against majalis</p>
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		<title>By: salman</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-3/#comment-92357</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[salman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where is the Chief Justice now? Where are his suo motos?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the Chief Justice now? Where are his suo motos?</p>
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		<title>By: LailaC.</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-2/#comment-92332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LailaC.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well said! Jazak Allah]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said! Jazak Allah</p>
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		<title>By: LailaC.</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-3/#comment-92331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LailaC.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the reply of A. Ali, he is the picture perfect image of what really happens and how they justify the shia killings. To baloch or pashtun, hazaras r none locals though We migrated before the muhajjirs, Urdu speaking population of PK but still We seem be to the big thorn in their eyes. 

I&#039;m proud to be of Hazara origin. We have Hazara female minister. InshAllah rehman future PM will be the best of Punjabi and Hazara mix DNA. We don&#039;t start or invoke conflicts. We understand the value of tolerance, education and peaceful halal living. Live and let live! 
Na hum naouzubillah Khuda hai, na Khuda bannein ko kosish karte hai. Jo khuda ke insaanoon ko qatl karte hai, vo khuda ka momin bandha phir kaisa?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the reply of A. Ali, he is the picture perfect image of what really happens and how they justify the shia killings. To baloch or pashtun, hazaras r none locals though We migrated before the muhajjirs, Urdu speaking population of PK but still We seem be to the big thorn in their eyes. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud to be of Hazara origin. We have Hazara female minister. InshAllah rehman future PM will be the best of Punjabi and Hazara mix DNA. We don&#8217;t start or invoke conflicts. We understand the value of tolerance, education and peaceful halal living. Live and let live!<br />
Na hum naouzubillah Khuda hai, na Khuda bannein ko kosish karte hai. Jo khuda ke insaanoon ko qatl karte hai, vo khuda ka momin bandha phir kaisa?</p>
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		<title>By: LailaC.</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-3/#comment-92329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LailaC.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m very glad that you posted as you did, because you are the true evil face of baloch or pashtun of Baluchistan. First of all, Hazaras are peace loving community. For decades our leaders prevented us from retaliation. But now, our youth will answer a bullet with a bullet. It is not lack of bravery that holds us back, trust me on that. 
 
For several years since days of cursed Zia, we have made government appeals for better security. 

Hazaras understand the value of education. In just 4 generations, We have outstanding academic achievements. Why don&#039;t other tribes do an actual effort too? It&#039;s such hypocrite way of addressing insecure sentiments and jalousy by writing Hazaras take the rights of poor baloch or pashtun, how pathetic! 

Don&#039;t We have freedom of religion in Pakistan? 
Quran surah 2: verse 265: There is no compulsion in religion (Islam). 
So what is it you are trying to claim by belonging to sunni majority? 
Arrogance is not liked by Allah, janaab. 

How odd, my ancestor migrated from Bamiyaan to Quetta before partition of India due to genocide carried out by abdul rehman. Today, while We helped building Pakistan in various ways the jalousy of socalled pious locals now makes it total HALAL to kill us because We happen to be a minority, namely Shia. 

How does it feel to be the actual victim for once, hu? When widows are left with unfed orphans? Tough ain&#039;t it? So wake up and smell the coffee for once, Ali. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very glad that you posted as you did, because you are the true evil face of baloch or pashtun of Baluchistan. First of all, Hazaras are peace loving community. For decades our leaders prevented us from retaliation. But now, our youth will answer a bullet with a bullet. It is not lack of bravery that holds us back, trust me on that. </p>
<p>For several years since days of cursed Zia, we have made government appeals for better security. </p>
<p>Hazaras understand the value of education. In just 4 generations, We have outstanding academic achievements. Why don&#8217;t other tribes do an actual effort too? It&#8217;s such hypocrite way of addressing insecure sentiments and jalousy by writing Hazaras take the rights of poor baloch or pashtun, how pathetic! </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t We have freedom of religion in Pakistan?<br />
Quran surah 2: verse 265: There is no compulsion in religion (Islam).<br />
So what is it you are trying to claim by belonging to sunni majority?<br />
Arrogance is not liked by Allah, janaab. </p>
<p>How odd, my ancestor migrated from Bamiyaan to Quetta before partition of India due to genocide carried out by abdul rehman. Today, while We helped building Pakistan in various ways the jalousy of socalled pious locals now makes it total HALAL to kill us because We happen to be a minority, namely Shia. </p>
<p>How does it feel to be the actual victim for once, hu? When widows are left with unfed orphans? Tough ain&#8217;t it? So wake up and smell the coffee for once, Ali. </p>
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		<title>By: Syed M N</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Syed M N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If secular culture is developed in Pakistan there will be peace on all fronts.That means no interference in others belief/religion and no act that hurts others feeling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If secular culture is developed in Pakistan there will be peace on all fronts.That means no interference in others belief/religion and no act that hurts others feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: Saeed</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-3/#comment-92285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saeed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sectarianism is nothing new for Islamic world in general and Indo-Pak in particular. Sectarianism has no preplanned genocide program. the terrorists who are killing shias are also targeting Pak Army, other security personnel, minorities and even baralvis. The frequency of terrorists acts against shias and the brutal and organized way is the main reason, that we are specifically mentioning shias here. One should check the facts as hazara shias have been living in Baluchistan for the last 200 years, they are not Afghans, and even if they are Afghans, they are human beings.The number of  Shias killing on religious ground is much higher and has no comparison with killings of Sunni muslims. There is no shia organization or person which has declared JEHAD against Sunnis (Ref: Malik Ishaque). Again we should call spade a spade. Sectarianism is not a bid issue, but target killing and planned terrorism against any community whether it is Sunni, Shia , Ahmadi, Christians, Hindus etc, is no doubt a big conspiracy against Pakistan. We must give a thought to the historic unholy alliance of a particular ideology with capitalist forces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sectarianism is nothing new for Islamic world in general and Indo-Pak in particular. Sectarianism has no preplanned genocide program. the terrorists who are killing shias are also targeting Pak Army, other security personnel, minorities and even baralvis. The frequency of terrorists acts against shias and the brutal and organized way is the main reason, that we are specifically mentioning shias here. One should check the facts as hazara shias have been living in Baluchistan for the last 200 years, they are not Afghans, and even if they are Afghans, they are human beings.The number of  Shias killing on religious ground is much higher and has no comparison with killings of Sunni muslims. There is no shia organization or person which has declared JEHAD against Sunnis (Ref: Malik Ishaque). Again we should call spade a spade. Sectarianism is not a bid issue, but target killing and planned terrorism against any community whether it is Sunni, Shia , Ahmadi, Christians, Hindus etc, is no doubt a big conspiracy against Pakistan. We must give a thought to the historic unholy alliance of a particular ideology with capitalist forces.</p>
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		<title>By: vijai</title>
		<link>https://forum.dawn.com/2012/08/17/growing-sectarian-violence/comment-page-3/#comment-92244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vijai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pakistan, the land of the pure is turned into another Germany, The jews have been repalced by Hindus, Sikhs, Ahmadis and now Shias, Sooner or later, this country will meet the fate of Germany at the end of  world war II. The only thing to se is that if Pakistan has the resilience and determination of Germany to recover, grow, bounce back and take a meaningful and respectful place in the world or it will go down like Afghanistan or Somalia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pakistan, the land of the pure is turned into another Germany, The jews have been repalced by Hindus, Sikhs, Ahmadis and now Shias, Sooner or later, this country will meet the fate of Germany at the end of  world war II. The only thing to se is that if Pakistan has the resilience and determination of Germany to recover, grow, bounce back and take a meaningful and respectful place in the world or it will go down like Afghanistan or Somalia</p>
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		<title>By: Ali USA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ali USA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what if Shias insult the three caliphs? People who belong to other faiths are always critical of other faiths. If there was no difference then there will be no two sects: Shias and Sunnis. Christians, Hindus, Jews, and within Christianity numerous divisions, all are critical of each other and of Muslims. So what? Does that mean everyone should start killing each other? Muslims often ridicule other faiths - does that justify people of other faiths to start killing Muslims because their feelings are getting hurt. If Shias ridicule the three caliphs, so be it. It is their faith. It is between God and them. If Sunnis love the three caliphs - so be it, it is between them and God. So Ahmadis deny the end of prophet line - which is supposedly insulting. So should all Ahmadis be killed? Atheists deny the existence of God, should they all be killed? Hindus don&#039;t believe in monothism. So where does it stop? Certainly for Sunnis caliphs are not superior to Prophet (s) or God? So who cares what Shias says about caliphs. It is their faith and no Sunni, or anyone, has a right to kill another person because of his/her faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if Shias insult the three caliphs? People who belong to other faiths are always critical of other faiths. If there was no difference then there will be no two sects: Shias and Sunnis. Christians, Hindus, Jews, and within Christianity numerous divisions, all are critical of each other and of Muslims. So what? Does that mean everyone should start killing each other? Muslims often ridicule other faiths &#8211; does that justify people of other faiths to start killing Muslims because their feelings are getting hurt. If Shias ridicule the three caliphs, so be it. It is their faith. It is between God and them. If Sunnis love the three caliphs &#8211; so be it, it is between them and God. So Ahmadis deny the end of prophet line &#8211; which is supposedly insulting. So should all Ahmadis be killed? Atheists deny the existence of God, should they all be killed? Hindus don&#8217;t believe in monothism. So where does it stop? Certainly for Sunnis caliphs are not superior to Prophet (s) or God? So who cares what Shias says about caliphs. It is their faith and no Sunni, or anyone, has a right to kill another person because of his/her faith.</p>
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